AN IDEAL FOR LIVING (7") 1982

Pirate copy of the official 12" release on Enigma.
Source: studio.

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The sleeve is a reproduction of the original 12" cover. The back sleeve (see scan) is different from the original.

Matrix numbers are: DOLLARS A/B.

The record came with labels with the band name of "The Dallars". There were some "cut-lick&stick" red insert labels with "Joy Division" and the track titles on - you had to stick these labels over the top of the "Dallars" ones.


See also A History In Cuttings which contains a similar version of this single


AN IDEAL FOR LIVING (7")

Pirate copy of the official 12" release on Enigma.
Source: studio.
Matrix numbers: DOLLARS

Front cover - click for larger image Back cover - click for larger image
Thanks to Paul Burridge for the scans

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No love lost Failures (of the modern man)

Looks like this copy is a cross between the regular AIFL 7" bootleg issue (above) and the version that came with an early edition of the A History In Cuttings book. This one has a simple folded sleeve made of thin matt grey / green paper which is folded along the bottom edge. Note the position of writing on the back of the sleeve.

Labels have the band name as "The Dallars" like the version above. No lick and stick labels included.


AN IDEAL FOR LIVING (7")   Counterfeit versions - Various issues 

Counterfeit copies of the official 7" release on Enigma.
Unlike the other releases on this page these ones are designed to be identical to the original release in every way.
There have been various issues over the years. They are very similar to each other so we have grouped them here under one listing - with the emphasis on how to tell a fake from an original. 
Source: studio.

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How to spot a fake

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Important: The information provided here is believed to be accurate but we do not guarantee it.


(1) Fakes released in the 1980s ...
see scans (opens new window)

Identical to the official release with a 14" x 14" fold out sleeve except:

We don't know how many different fakes were released in the 1980s. There may have been just one pressing, or there may have been more. 

(2) U.K. pressing released in 2004 / 2005 see scans (opens new window)

This one looks much more like the original than the earlier fakes

The white vinyl version looks like it is a repressing of this one

(3) U.K. pressing released in 2009

(4) Later issues

Signs of an original see scans (opens new window)




Below are more detailed listings of the different counterfeit repressings we know about. If you have a version that is different from the ones listed on this site please email us.

 AN IDEAL FOR LIVING (7") probably Australian, mid/late 1980s

1st(?) fake reissue of the official 7" release on Enigma.
Black vinyl, non-glossy/not shiny fold-out sleeve
Matrix numbers: PSS 139 EP A1 (side A), and PSS 139 EP B1 (side B)
Source: studio.

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No love lost Failures (of the modern man)


AN IDEAL FOR LIVING (7") Japanese(?) pressing, 1990s(?)

2nd(?) fake reissue of the official 7" release on Enigma.
Plain white labels, black vinyl, smooth shiny/glossy folder cover
Matrix numbers: JOY DIVI A (side A), and JOY DIVI B (side B)
Source: studio.

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Slightly different from the other fake reissues as the matrix numbers are different, and the cover only folds out once with the band picture on the inner left and the soldier picture on the inner right - ie the sleeve is 7" tall and 14" wide, printed on both sides, and then folded in half.

(The official 7" release was printed on one side of a 14" x 14" piece of card and then folded twice to make the sleeve - see listing for details)


 AN IDEAL FOR LIVING (7") UK pressing, 2004/2005

3rd(?) fake reissue of the official 7" release on Enigma.
Black vinyl.
Matrix numbers: PSS-139-EP-A-I EG (side A), and PSS-139-EP-B-I EG (side B). Almost exact replica of original issue, but there is no serrated edge around the label. A white vinyl pressing (as pictured below) of supposedly only 100 copies was released in 2005. Another limited repressing of 75 copies, this time on blue vinyl (colour is darker blue and less transparent than the USA blue vinyl pressing listed below), turned up in 2006.
Source: studio.

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No love lost Failures (of the modern man)

The fold-out sleeve is thick card, with a non-glossy/not shiny surface.


 

AN IDEAL FOR LIVING (7") UK pressing, 2009

4th(?) fake reissue of the official 7" release on Enigma.
100 copies on pink vinyl, and either 100 or 300 copies - depending on who you believe - on blue, white, and red vinyl. Later issued on black vinyl, issued with proper printed black labels or plain white.
Matrix numbers: PSS-139-A1 (side A), and PSS 139-B1 (side B).
No serrated edge around the label.
No "EG" in the matrix number
Source: studio.

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The sleeve looks faded compared to earlier fakes


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No love lost Failures (of the modern man)


AN IDEAL FOR LIVING (7") USA pressing, 2005

Fake reissue of the official 7" release on Enigma.
Picture disc 750 copies
Reissued on colour vinyl, see below
Matrix numbers: PSS-139-EP-A1/B1
Plays at 33 1/3 rpm In 2006 an orange (sometimes referred to as gold or yellow) vinyl version appeared (see picture below). This was a limited edition of 250 copies, and is probably just a repressing of the picture disc as the matrix numbers, sleeve etc are identical. Another repressing, this time on blue vinyl (colour is more pale blue-greenish than the blue vinyl UK pressing listed above) was released in 2006, 150 copies. A green vinyl version appeared in 2006, 5 copies, and a purple one in 2007. 2008 saw re-releases in clear, spring green, army green, and grey vinyl. Reissued on mauve vinyl in 2011.

Source: studio.

 


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The poster sleeve is very smooth and shiny


AN IDEAL FOR LIVING (7") 2011

Fake reissue of the official 7" release on Enigma.
Picture disc featuring artwork from the official 12"
250 hand numbered copies
Matrix numbers: JD A / JD B
Source: studio.

 


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An Ideal For Living 12"EP A/B Anonymous Records

This is the original pirate copy.
Matrix numbers are just "A" and "B".

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Sleeve based on the orig. AIFL 12" - all text is the same and set out in the same manner as the original but it is on a plain background instead of the "scaffold" image.

The labels say "An ideal for living" and "Joy Division" and "side 1" or "2" and the song titles. There is no record label.



An Ideal For Living 12"EP 664 A F/B F Anonymous Records

Greek pressing from the same people who did The Short Circuit 12", The Ideal Beginning 12", and Buzzcocks "Spiral Scratch"
Hand written matrix numbers: 664 A F and 664 B F

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Identical to then 12" above but with "Ltd Edition" note on cover and different matrix/groove numbers



AN IDEAL FOR LIVING (12") W/N/L/F Anonymous Records

Picture disc.
Matrix numbers: W/N-1A (Side 1) and L/F -1B (Side 2) These are the first letters of the song titles
Source: studio.

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Has an address: 35 Little Peter St. Manchester, and a telephone number on it.
Pirate copy of the official release on Enigma.

The picture disc has no "cover", and is a reproduction of the original 12" cover. It was sold as an extremely rare official release by some dealers many years ago, although it's clearly a counterfeit issue.




AN IDEAL FOR LIVING (12") Fac XXV Anonymous Records

Released 1978.
Source: studio. Penine Sound Studios, December 1977
Insert sleeve, later reissued in a proper sleeve
White labels with black text (opposite of the genuine article)
Matrix numbers: W/N-1-A (Side A) W/N-1-B (Side B) Different matrix to pic disc above - extra hyphen, different hadwriting

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Thanks to Michael for the scans.

Warsaw Leaders of men
No love lost Failures (of the modern man)


AN IDEAL FOR LIVING (12")

We don't know much about this one except it has no matrix numbers which makes it different from the releases above.
Plain white sleeve.
Source: studio.

Warsaw Leaders of men
No love lost Failures (of the modern man)


AN IDEAL FOR LIVING (12") Anonymous Records 2006

Issued in white (500 copies), green, and blue vinyl. Later issued on clear vinyl (without insert). A purple vinyl reissue turned up in 2011, again without the original insert.
12" paper insert with photos of the band.
Matrix numbers are: A-NON-1-A DON'T LET IT EVER FADE AWAY (Side A) A-NON-1-B I FEEL IT CLOSING IN (Side B)
Source: studio.

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No love lost Failures (of the modern man)


AN IDEAL FOR LIVING (12") 2011


UK.counterfeit version of the official 12" single. Sleeves and labels very similar to the original
Black vinyl.
Matrix numbers:
ANON 1 A-A-1
ANON 1 A-B-1
Groove notations "DON'T EVER LET IT FADE AWAY" etc are missing. This is the best way to tell it's not an original.
Just like the original it has the hand-written band name, title and catalogue number on the spine (the USA pirate 12" has this printed on the spine).

Source: studio.

Warsaw Leaders of men
No love lost Failures (of the modern man)


See also A History In Cuttings which contains another version of this single